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#5997
PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
I see a lot of posts and sites about how PA piercings are a fool proof method of chastity. But I cant really see how it can be integrated into a non piercing specific belt. Some people say to weld or glue the piercing ring closed, but this is inappropriate if it is to come off every week or two.

Is there anything I'm missing? Apart from gluing a regular ring shut, what is there to stop you from just taking the PA ring out?

Even with a method that lets you remove the chastity device while keeping the PA in, doesn't that then render sex impossible without damaging the vagina?

Is it that PA chastity piercings are only for people who are pretty much permanently in chastity and are never supposed to have sex?

My situation is that I can pull out of my cb2000 regardless of the setting, and I'm saving up for a cs-500 from chastity steel. It's not guaranteed but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to pull out of the cs500, since even with a small A-ring held tight against my body I can still pull out of the cb2000 with no trouble.

Is there a PA method that would work with a cs500 to prevent pullout, allowing the belt to be removed at least a few times a month and allowing comfortable sex?

This is the belt I have chosen, I'm not interested in loris tubes or anything else that might be a better belt. Just curious if there is a way to get the PA to work with it

Thanks

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#5998
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 15  
Hi Aleks~

lustschloss.de makes several styles of padlock designed to be worn thru a PA (or labial corset, among other places) as a means of securing their own device, called the peniskorb if I recall correctly. One runs the shackle thru the piercing from outside the device. Seems that many smaller locks would also work - but beware of cheap ones with chromed shackles. You don't want that rubbing off ... and I'd think the weight of the lock body'd provide for some, um, interesting reactions.

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I also understand that sex with a PA ring in place is pretty wild!
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#5999
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 3  
Aleks-
I can understand your apprehension about the piercing and the effect it may have on comfortable sex. Let Me tell you from first hand experience, uncomfortable is about as far from the truth as one can get. I had tiffiny pierced (with a PA) about 5 years ago. The piercer inserted a 10 ga. ring to begin with. Over the years, W/we have increased the size of the ring to a 2ga. With each upgrade the feeling increased as well. In no way does it cause any pain or discomfort. It actually adds to the feeling due to the weight and the fact that in most positions it actually increased the pressure on the female G-spot. It also increases the senstivity in the head of the penis. Had I known then what I know now, it would have been done years earlier! This is one decision neither one of U/us has ever regretted.
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#6000
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Trainer,
Those padlocks look great, they are a little expensive and possibly a little slim though. Would they be about a 10 gauge? One of those should fit nicely round the bars of a cs500.

Linda,
Is it really? well I had no idea i thought it would have been dangerous. However, if I do end up with one I think the small gauges look a lot more attractive. Obviously the bigger the ring is, the more comfortable it will be, but do you think that a ring this small, maybe 12 or 10 gauge, may cause scraping or tearing inside the vagina, or would it be fine?
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#6003
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 15  
I don't recall specific gauges but I'm sure they do come in different sizes. 8GA is pretty common, but I bet if you drop them a line they'll do custom work. And come to think of it, a custom lock's likely to be even more costly, but considering the alternatives will probably be your best solution. And that's what it's all about, right? The best tool to lock down that tool?

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#6015
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 3  
Aleks-
I really don't think you should have any trouble with a smaller ring. Up to the zero, they all close pretty much the same way. You will want to, however, get them from a good piercer or jewlery store and stay away from the mall kiosks as the quality will not be as good.
Good Luck <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />
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#6022
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Aleks,
Take it from me, <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /> having the piercing done will be WELL WORTH the trouble. The feeling gained by having it done will blow your mind.. And no, I am not kidding..
As Ms. Linda said. the feeling is better for both parties. I could not believe the level of feeling gained from the ring{s}. From the smallest gauge to about a 6 gauge was real good, but "so so" in the feeling while cumming. But once I got to the 4,,,,? felt real good.. And the 2 gauge?? now THAT's when the fun really begins.. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /> For me, once the 2 gauge was in place, the feeling just went nuts.. I could not believe one could have those levels of intense feelings..
And what the 2 gauge did for Ms. Linda was on about the same level.. {if not higher.}
When they are first done, the small rings stretch the hole in the skin rather fast. So moving down in size go's fast. I got to the 2 gauge in about 6-8 months. Getting to a 6 or 8 gauge takes just a few weeks.
A heads up though,,,, if you plan on going even bigger,,,,,? Let the piercer know. To get into a "0" {or even bigger} a "00" the piercing needs to be offset even more so to allow the hole in the skin to get to that size.
Also,, getting the ball in or out of the ring on sizes larger then a size 4 or maybe even a 6, you will need a pliers that is made to pull the ring apart a bit to get the ball in and out.
Bottom line,,,,.. A PA piercing is well worth the trouble.. And getting to a 2 gauge{or larger} is where the "pay back" is at.. For both of you.. Once there, you may not want the chastity.. The feeling{s} really are that great. But then too,, one only needs to remove the chastity and place a ring in for some fun times and GREAT feeling{s}..
"Had I known then what I know now."? 110% worth every penny..

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#6027
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
I am a sissy who loves her CB3000 very much. My keyholder would like me to get a PA in hopes of making things more secure. My question is how deep is your piercing? Does it need to be further down the shaft to prevent migration or pulling out?

Also does anyone know how to make the ball semi-secure? obviously welding is out of the question although we both love the idea.


We were also entertaining a frenum ring as well to assist in securing things. Thoughts?
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#6028
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  

Also does anyone know how to make the ball semi-secure? obviously welding is out of the question although we both love the idea.


We were also entertaining a frenum ring as well to assist in securing things. Thoughts?



cdliny516,
If you were to have a PA piercing done, once you get to a size 2, you WILL need a pliers to get it off and on the ring. I am 6'4", 200 lbs. and I can not remove the ball. It takes all I have using a pliers made to remove the ball. Just having your owner hide or lock up the pliers will work. And trust me,, you will not get it off.

Also,,
The biggest down side to having a PA is that for the most part,, you will need to sit when taking a pee.. One can still stand at a urnal, but you need to look where the "second spray" is going. I have more then once piddled in the urnal AND on my pants at the same time.. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" border="0" alt="Embarassed" title="Embarassed" />
But still,, well worth it.. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" />

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#6037
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Not much to offer on the specifications side, it has all be covered adequately and well. I do want to add a more than gentle shove towards quality. And quality usually mean you pay more.

In a lock, do not go cheap. Definitely go for one with a real key, and one that is tough. You don't want it to jam, rust shut, or one that you can open with a bobby pin. Trainer's advice on chrome is excellent, but some people do have metal allergies. Test for these before you start! This area is about pain and frustration, but not that kind. The special metals in rings and other piercing jewelry are made of metals chosen for their non-allergic qualities, among other things.

On a “piercing parlor” .... PLEASE check them out!!!!! Look at the piercing room, check out the autoclave, normally they have to check it and log the check regularly. Ask to see the log. Look in the piercing room, if it leaves you queasy or seems "dirty" go elsewhere. Talk to the piercer and ask about his technique, various metals, and if he can show you previous work (good piercers are proud of their work and many have photo albums.) Ask about after care and availability for advice after it is done. If the answers seem wish washy, or he won't talk to you - run.

Simply stated, quality costs, but in the long run is worth it.

FM
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#6054
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
I concur on several points:
** Get the PA
** I started and am still at an 8ga.
** I cannot remove the ball with fingers, I would need to use pliers but I really have no desire or need to remove it.
** It is best to sit until you learn to stand real close to the urinal and direct the two streams sideways.
** Use a security cable so you don't add weight through the end of the CBxxxx with a second lock.
** Using a smaller "A" ring is not going to solve the problem with any device and may actually cause damage to your health from improper circulation.

Good luck and take the plunge!!
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#6065
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Thanks everyone for the tips.

Honestly I see having to sit down to pee as a positive reinforcement of me being a sissy. So this to me is not a negative.

Do you all have the ring running through the front of cbxxxx or did you make a hole in the side of the plastic to run it through?

And advice on how far down the shaft to ask the piercer to place the ring?
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#6077
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 15  
What worked for me (briefly, before my first Lori's) was to let the ring drop thru the slit at the head end and run a bit of light chain from the lock, above, around the cage and thru the ring, back up to the lock. There's somebody who does this with aircraft cable, but I don't recall who. The toughest part would seem to be the little cleats on the end of the cable forming a loop .... they'd probably have to be bent to prevent snagging underwear and to more closely follow your contours.

As to securing the ball, try a drop of crazy glue. You (assumedly - lol) would be able to break that 'weld' later with a pair of spreader pliers ... or use bolt cutters to eventually remove the ring entirely. Be SUPER careful not to glue the ball into your urethra ... or you'll end up peeing out the bottom for life <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif" border="0" alt="Mr. Green" title="Mr. Green" /> I'd suggest having a KH or other (good) friend help you with this, don't try to do it yourself. It's just too hard to see at the correct angle!

You don't need to specify how deep to put the piercing. It's determined by the ring diameter where the receiving tube exits the underside of your shaft. For best results, begin with the end in mind. F'r instance, Ms. Lori recommends a minimum 8GA for her devices, my captive bead ring is approx. 3/4 in. in diameter, so the 'exit' hole is just behind the corona and to one side of the frenulum. If you go deeper or shallower, your hardwear(ware) will probably migrate to the correct position, and migration's what you DON'T want. Scar tisue at the tip of your weewee's no fun. And a PA's solid enough to support a lot of weight, unless you're planning on hauling around a car battery from yours, trust a reputable piercing studio to put it exactly where it should be. Jewelry / restraint manufacturers base their designs on 'standard/optimum/average' placement anyway.
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#6189
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
My Mistress has been talking about having me get a pa piercing to help hold me in my CB3000 but we have some questions.

First how long to heal.

Second she would love to see me with a big ring in so how big to start.

Third my Mistress does let me make love to her so how will it feel for her.

Fourth my Mistress would love to use it as a plug for a ruined orgasm can that be done.

Thank you for any help
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#6199
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
hi panties I have had mine for 3years now. I left it out once for about 2 weeks I had to put it back in as my dick don't look rifgt without it.
How long to it heals
not long the first 3 days were the worst as every time you pee it stings like hell but after that no pain at all not too much blood either first night had a bit when i had a hardon.
size of ring
I only have a 1.6mm thick one but it can take quite a while to build up to a bigger size.
how will it feel for her
I have had no complaints yet but I would of thought the size may make a differance ( not dick size )
use as a plug
The only way I now of is to have a princes wand with the the screw end in place.
have a look at this site it all about piercings <!-- w --><a href="www.painfulpleasures.com" target="_blank">www.painfulpleasures.com</a><!-- w --> theres is a forum on there, I am on there some where. Will give you all the info you need.
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#6202
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Hello All, Last weekend my Mistress decided that she needs to make my chastity more permanent. We currently use a cb2000 or 3000 for my chastity wear. Also a ksd adaptor to try and keep my cock inside it better. However she has become disappointed by shrinkage overnight and movement in bed. And has seen my cock almost pull out by morning. So now she decided to take things a step further. She is going to arrange for me to get a PA piercing. I was told to order a cable strap for the cb3000 today. Well i guess my question is, can anybody relate to this type of control. I am a little scared about both, one having my penis pierced and two how this will make any type of escape, other then cutting it off much more permanent. I have done stints in my chastity for a long as 90 days in the past, but i see her moving towards 24/7 by making sure she has all the kinks worked out. As far a escape goes. So just looking for some feed back on both getting a PA and others who have moved in this direction.
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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: -1  

Hello All, Last weekend my Mistress decided that she needs to make my chastity more permanent. She is going to arrange for me to get a PA piercing. I have done stints in my chastity for a long as 90 days in the past, but i see her moving towards 24/7 So just looking for some feed back. scared little cumslave
It sounds like you are not ready to take such a drastic action as piercing. I understand her concern about the lack of security with the CB-2/3000. Seems like an alternative would be to get one of the steel belts that secure your penis in a steel tube where you can't see it or touch it. The CS-100 is a good place to start, or she may want to lock you away forever in a Neosteel belt. You won't be slipping out of that.
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#6220
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
hi cumslave
having your PA done is no problem there is very little pain. having used a PA cable on my 3000 I find that it makes the piercing sore as when you are soft it starts to pull on the piercing. I last used mine for two nights on the second morning It had been bleeding so I took cable out. I have not read anything on here about other peoples experiance with the cable, it maybe if I give it a bit more time it would not be a problem. If there is anyone who uses a cable please let us know if you had any problems. Thanks
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#6275
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
Thank for the advise pete;
How long have you been pierced since you put on the cable? I hear it's about six good weeks until it is healed. I can imagine that it would pull on the piercing. I can tell by the way my penis shrinks up the cage now. Besides the tearing problem, does the cable keep your cock in place. I know I'am not all to found of having this done, and the neosteel would work just fine. But I know that Mistress has this desire to do this, and there is no talking her out of something once her mind is made up. So I just need to fine out what to expect, and get as much info as I can.
Thanks All.
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#6283
Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
I have a PA. I've had it about 2 years and currently have a 4 guage ring in. The way you use it to lock a CB3000 is to padlock the ring. The keyholder can unlock the ring as well as the cage and it just slides out.

Truthfully speaking about sex with the PA. Every woman who has seen it has loved it. I mean loved it. They feel it go in, the feel the hard steel open her but once it's in they've all kinda said they can't feel much difference. One woman liked the way it rubbed her g spot but other than that it's more of a cool looking thing than a sex enhancement.

Funny thing is it's one of the easiest piercings to heal from. Anyone considering it I say go for it. But make sure you get someone who knows how to do it right.

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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 1  
Ms. Linda, Tiffany,

Thank you both. That is the best explaination of a PA piercing I've ever seen!
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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 0  
hi cumslave 2002 I have had my PA for about 3 years now as I only got my cb about 3 months ago it was fully healed. If does keep it to the bottom of the tube you are able to stand and pee as it is more or less lined up. I think it is about 6 weeks to heal but I had no problems with mine. I have never regretted having it done.
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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 10 Months ago Karma: 1  
One question. Are PAs strong enough for a Mistress to attach a leash to? Or could something rip or tear out?

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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 0  
i have had a PA done 4 times. I have tried Nobium, surgical steel in about every grade there is, Titanium, small gages and large gages. It simply isnt for me, it didnt heal that well, sex was nice but every time after sex, it started to inflame for a couple of weeks. It hurted like hell just wearing it I have visited many piercers, including the best in the Netherlands. According to my doctor, im simply allergic to metal.
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Luvpain, if you want to keep your piercing, go here for a start: <a href="www.bmeshop.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCat_h...?idCategory=18" target="_blank">www.bmeshop.com/ProductCart/pc/v ... ategory=18</a>
they have acrylic & glass jewelry for those alergic to metals. I have bought jewelry from them before & they do a good service.
Also, many online jewelry retailers also have plastic/glass jewelry & many have a very large selection to choose from.
So if you want to keep it but cant wear metal, dont give up home.
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Thats not a bad idea. Maybe ill decide to have a fifth done.
With all the puncturing my dick starts to look like a pincushion.
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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 0  
I have to echo the other remarks here. I've currently got a 6 ga pa with a captive ball ring. I've had mine since November of 2005. (Thank you Mistress for the birthday gift) I was pierced with an 8 ga and gone up to a 6 within about 6-8 months. My only regret is not getting it sooner.

We love the look of it and the feel. Plus it makes the cb3k that much more secure. I've got a 4 ga but have not quite streached that far. SOON though I hope.

I'm hoping to get a Prince's Wand soon. Just gotta save up the $$$. If I'm out of my cage, I can pee standing up but DO have to watch for the "Extra" spray on ocassion. CAREFUL wearing kakhi pants! When locked it IS best to sit.

Bottom line! GET IT!
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Re: PA piercing 6 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 0  
More points to concur:
* I have had a PA 8ga for over a year and I wish I had done it a LONG time ago. It is definitely right for a sissy.
* I use a security cable that I got from keptforher.com.
* They crimp loops on the ends so there are no burrs or sharp edges.
* I originally tried a chrome chain which flaked, corroded, made noise, pinched and put unnecessary weight on the PA ring.
* I stretch enough that looping the cable through PA on the outside end of the CB works well.
* I have seen some mods with a hole drilled through the head of the CB and a pin locked through it for those who may not stretch so far.
* I have the hygiene down pat now and would never have to take of the CBxxxx device ever again.
* I have a doctor appointment next week with my regular physician and I keep the CB on for the checkup.
* I use a Master brand small brass luggage lock, the metal cable and the PA ring and go through U.S. airport security all the time without an issue.
* I don't know how much tugging the ring can handle. I think it is more of a steering device like a bit for a horse. You wouldn't want to rip it out but clearly you will know which direction to go if your Mistress or Master is pulling.

DO IT! you Will be satisfied.
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